Meet Prufrock & Eidolon with Molly Glasgow

Usually I show you cheeses that are naked. That is to say, sans packaging. But when Prufrock and Eidolon arrived in the mail, I was struck by their attire. The packaging reminded me of the fashionable slickers that my Finnish neighbor children wear — all playful patterns and punchy colors.

Prufrock and Eidolon Wrapped

Should cheese packaging matter?

After all, aren’t cheese lovers really after fudge-y interiors and glorious rinds? Consider this: most consumers buy cheese at the store. They’re accustomed to shrink-wrap and poorly designed labels that are a thousand miles from adorable. And most shoppers — unlike the people who read this blog — don’t know a Colby from a Camembert, much less an artisan Camembert from a commodity Camembert.

So, maybe the the dairy case is ready for street style.

In fact, the more I work with novice tasters — like my wonderful students and interns — the more I’m aware how they make decisions based on good design. If you are a cheesemaker who spends hours making, salting, washing, and flipping a cheese, doesn’t it make sense to somehow convey that care — that level of detail — in your packaging?

This week, I asked Molly Glasgow of Grey Barn Farm to talk about her design decisions in creating the packaging for her family’s farmstead cheese.

 

Read the interview...

Molly Glasgow PhotoHi, Molly. You have such an interesting background – before you and your husband Eric started farming on Martha’s Vineyard, you worked in the corporate world for 15 years as a  designer. Can you tell us about your past life?

Hi, Tenaya. Thanks so much for taking the time to interview me. I
graduated from Pratt Institute back in the mid-1990s with a degree in
sculpture having changed majors from architecture.

There were no ‘sculptress wanted’ ads in the paper, funny enough, so I moved back home — which happened to be Houston, Texas. Upon returning, I landed a job with Savage Design Group in Houston. I couldn’t believe my luck, and I think that working there really cemented my design understanding and the important role design plays in our lives, be it tangible or in the online realm. Working there also taught me how important your team is and that without the right players you are up the creek without a paddle.

My husband, Eric, and I met in Houston, although he is from Massachusetts. We moved to London the first time with my husband’s work shortly after getting married. Living and working in London really focused my design aesthetic, and upon moving back to NYC I had moved up the ranks and into an art director position. Then 9/11 happened, I was laid-off and we decided to start a family.

I always dreamt of being a stay-at-home mom and as Eric’s work became even more demanding with even longer hours, going back to work — with two little boys in tow — was not an option at that point. We moved every couple of years with Eric’s work and it really took its toll. Literally one day Eric said, ‘I want to quit my job’. I said ‘ok, sounds like a good idea’. We looked at each other, looked at our little family garden and decided we should become farmers. Sounds stupid, right? I mean who does that? We did.

We were living in London at the time and there was this great cheese shop called La Fromagerie. We loved going there and our kids called it the ‘stinky cheese shop’. We said to each other ‘lets milk cows and make cheese’. Seriously. We had no idea what we were stepping into. Six months later we had moved here to this farm. Six and a half years later, here we are farming and making cheese.

You have a stunning website, one that depicts the raw beauty of working with animals and making cheese. Yet, your “Story” makes it very clear that the transition from designer to farmer has required hard work. Can you talk about your role (s) on the farm? (I imagine that you make cheese and also handle marketing?)

Thank you so much. The website was a labor of love. The photographer I worked with, Elizabeth Cecil, is amazing. When she first brought me photos of nice chickens I said ‘these are lovely but I want to see real farming. Where is the mud? Where is the shit?’. I really feel that is where the true beauty of farming lies.

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Hard work. Yes. But it’s more than that – it has been a real mental game. At first there was the fun of learning new things. Learning about soil and seeds. Learning about calving and artificial insemenation. (Yes, I took that class. Four days of my arm up a cows you know what.). When we started farming, I was to be the cheesemaker here and I went to cheese school up at VIAC (vermont institute of artisanal cheese). I love cheese. I love the process of making cheese. I love the order that goes along with running a creamery and I love how you have to keep everything clean. I love the lists and the calculations. There wasn’t anything I didn’t love about running the creamery and trying to make cheese.

But then I got sick. Really sick and couldn’t figure out why. As it turns out I have ulcerative colitis and a serious dairy allergy. Even the act of making cheese and having my arms in the vat of milk would send me to bed or to the bathroom for days.

Perhaps this isn’t what you were expecting, right? But it’s the truth and fact is I was crap at cheesemaking. Cheesemaking really is an art. Enter stage right – Jacqueline – our amazing cheesemaker. She can read milk and curd and cheese ripening in the cave the same way I understand design. It must be imbedded in our DNA.

I focus my energy on photography of the farm, marketing and packaging. I help out with the occasional baby piglet, feed the ducks with our kids and climb up in attic spaces when we have plumbing issues. I used to try and do it all, but I’m not wonder woman as it turns out. Its funny how life works out isn’t it?

What design decisions went into your packaging?

I wanted each cheese to feel like a little gift. I love beautiful little packages and I wanted our customers to really feel this when they decided to purchase our cheese. It should be special. Buying cheese should be a wonderful experience and when you get home I wanted that experience to continue.

I feel that color often frames a time period and I felt strongly that I wanted the packaging to be a variation on black and white. It felt classic. I also wanted the packaging to have a feminine touch. Without the floral pattern the packaging was overly simple and plain and was missing that little bit something special. When Lauren at P&L Media came up with the pattern we had printed on the cheese paper, it was so perfect I couldn’t believe it.

How does your packaging reflect the taste and/or styles of your cheeses?


A Washed Rind Cheese

It might seem obvious to say that our cheeses are French influenced but the funny thing is when we we’re designing the packaging I was looking at a lot of ceramic tiles. Many of the patterns I was attracted to were older French designs. I took images of these tiles to Lauren and said how can we incorporate this direction into the packaging and that is when she came up with the idea of the pattern. French cheese, French tiles – might seem odd but I guess for me two of my favorite things came together at the same time. It’s so interesting what influences us.

 

Do you have any design tips for small-batch cheesemakers on a limited budget when it comes to package design and marketing?

I would ask them to ask themselves what they like. Create a folder with images of packaging they like and ask themselves why. Make notes on images so you can remember. Go on Google and type in package design, package design london, package design japan, cheese packaging etc. There are so many images online and I find printing off the ones I like really helps me focus because I can spread them out, move them around and get rid of the ones that don’t work. This will save you a lot of time with a designer when you meet with them – knowing what you want – and even more importantly knowing what you don’t want and don’t like. In the beginning I took images and said “I don’t want our packaging to look like this.” It really helps the designer know what you want.

Paper. I know this sounds odd but for me paper selection is so important. Let’s say you have designed your own label and are having them printed online. There are a lot of great options out there for this. Before you place your order, get paper samples mailed to you. In real life papers feel and seem much different than examples online.

Understand the information you need on your packaging from your inspector. If you have all of the correct information from the start it will save you money as your designer will not have to spend time redesigning your packaging. Even if you have done the design yourself, time is money and not having to spend time making changes will really make things go more smoothly.

Prufrock Starting to Show

 

You and I met on Instagram (@thegreybarnchilmark) – can you talk about why you use that platform to share images from your farm?

For me, I am a photographer at heart and a friend of mine here on the vineyard who runs @chilmarkcoffeecompany told me I should really get an instagram account for the farm. I didn’t believe him at first but now understand why he thought I would enjoy it so much. A photograph can show what you want to show and hide what you want to hide all at the same time. Instagram allows me to tell our story visually. I see it as a way to connect our customers back to the farm where their food comes from. This is why most of my photos are not of cheese. I want people to see where their food is raised not just a photo of that food. Sharing the beauty and goings-on of our farm with others really is the best part of my job. Each morning I wonder what will happen on the farm that I can share. I love connecting with people in that way.

 

Finally, how did you come to name Prufrock and Eidolon? And do you have favorite pairings that you enjoy eating alongside them?

Both names are from poems. Prufrock comes from the poem “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock” by T. S. Eliot and Eidolon is from a poem by Walt Whitman entitled “Eidolons.” We are currently developing a blue cheese named Bluebird after the poem by the poet John Burroughs.

Why poets and poetry? We didn’t want to name the cheeses after our location. Because we are on Martha’s Vineyard, we thought it would be too touristy and we wanted their names to have real meaning for us. Prufrock is Eric’s favorite poem – always has been. Eidolon Takes It OffWe choose the name Eidolon because we had suffered a fire in our creamery and felt this poem really represented what we had been through to rebuild. The first line in the poem Bluebird is ‘a wistful note from out of the sky’ and it just seemed to fit beautifully. We had been wracking our brains to find a poem that would fit with the loveliness of this third cheese and there it was in a book of poetry on my bedside table. Prufrock is amazing with Belgian Trappist ales like Chimay. Eric tells me the combination is akin to enlightenment. Eidolon is a little trickier. In our house it usually gets eaten with a spoonful of my sister-in-law’s mother’s homemade fig jam. I’m assuming most people don’t have a jar of Cathy’s jam so Eric would suggest a lovely glass of bubbly champagne.

I just want to thank you for asking such great questions. I love to talk about cheese, about farming, about photography and it is so great to talk about packaging!

Tasting Notes

Prufrock: Mildly stinky with a beautiful bronze-orange rind and dense ivory paste. It needs a good sun salutation in order to soften — the sample I tried was fairly firm. But it’s stunningly delicious, a mouthful of mushrooms and cream. A beautiful example of a Taleggio style. Would be great with mostarda.Prufrock close-up

Eidolon: A tall downy creature shaped like a cylinder. Beautiful thin rind enrobes sweet, clean-tasting milk. My wheel was a bit young — dense but not quite satiny (the paste hadn’t broken down yet to become creamy). Would be great alongside a floral jelly, berry jam, or lemon balm jelly.

Eidolon close-up

Disclosure: The cheeses presented in this post were sent to me as samples by the cheesemaker.

Gratitude: Special thanks to formatting czar Erin Konigsdorffer for her hand in designing this post!

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7 Responses to “Meet Prufrock & Eidolon with Molly Glasgow”
  1. What a great post! I love the part about Molly wanting the cheese to look like little gifts. We eat with our eyes as well as our mouths so packaging is key. Where can a Michigander Mouse find Grey Barn cheeses? Stay Cheesy!

  2. Lakisha says:

    Beautiful post and love that you met on instagram! I will be following Grey Barn Farm!

  3. Richard says:

    I met Molly and Eric 6 years ago, when they called me and said they wanted to buy land on MV and milk cows. I said ” yea, right”!!! We met in CT and I toured them on some dairy farms we had installed milking equipment on, told them they had no idea what they were getting into, and we were off to the races! Six years later Handfield Dairy Equipment is proud to be a very small part of their success at being dairy farmers and cheese makers. I really didn’t think they would make it. Shows you how much I know! Not only are they customers of HDE, I am happy to say we have become good friends also. I love Molly’s sense of humor and both Eric and Molly’s drive to do such a good job in a very difficult business!

    • tdarlington says:

      Thanks for the comment, Richard. This is great feedback — it’s amazing (and nail-biting) to watch people takes risks like this. And so delicious to see them succeed!

  4. anna juhl says:

    Thanks for introducing us to Grey Barn, what an inspiration! I could get lost in their web site, beautiful. Tenaya, what about a little Cheese Journey to Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard in May?:) Molly, So fun to see your little cheese jewels dressed up. Love the paper… reminds me of the simple but unique gift wrap you see all over Holland. Maybe Formaticum could create a new product line for all of us cheese lovers?

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